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I'm so nervous about posting this, but I'm not going to erase it and write a friendly letter so things can all be ladeedeedahum again. I don't think I've ever been so mad about things over the internet except when Saylor came on, but this doesn't even amount to that! My hands have never trembled so much... I think I'm going to throw up from being so nervous. I've never fought so angrily with Gwen before. Ever.

Gwen,

I'm sorry you got so offended, and I'm sorry you got so mad that I twisted his name. I'm sorry that I exclaimed his name in the first place, but I was frustrated because I don't know why people got so offended when I jokingly said that homeschoolers "sucked" because they got to stay home.

However, I don't want to put up with this. There are certain things that put me off, such as... you didn't have to point it out to the entire world and attack me about it. I'm glad you feel the need to stand up for yourself and Christianity altogether, but all you had to do was ask politely through PM to remove it and I would have. You didn't have to draw so much attention to it that it seemed everyone in the whole wide world was looking and pointing fingers.

So, now that we're pointing things out abruptly, I don't know what's up with your signature because I have never called you bitchy and I don't think I ever will. If I did anything to make you think so, sorry.

I don't need a signature dedicated to what I did wrong. You acted all nice about it on UPDATES but you decide to snipe me in your signature.

Gee, thanks.

Oh, and one more thing.

Rachel, don't post just for the sake of posting. It makes you look annoying.

If something doesn't help, then don't say it. Honestly.

Sunny didn't mean to hurt anyone and she wasn't insulting you, she was just making an innocent observation (that she didn't want us to fight and this was the first time), so I'm standing up for her. You didn't have to go make a blow like that. It doesn't make her look annoying, it makes her look like she's a good friend and that she cares.

[sunnstar]

**clutches heart** Oh, okay, thank G-d.

I feel the same way, btw. But by "fade out," does that mean, like, almost never come on, or just not post AS much?

Edit:: Thanks, Krista! Yeahsrsly Gwen, that was all I was doing. I don't just post for no reason (except for maybe in SR) like that.

And btw, Krista spells things wrong on purpose. Like by saying "intranetz" or "yestraday" it makes it funnier. I honestly don't think she was trying to do anything wrong, or was.

**butts out now**

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Rachel, you can say thank God, lolol.

And by fade out, I mean like post less and less gradually until I just don't post at all.

Well, Krista, I'm glad you feel compelled to point out things I do wrong just because I asked you not to do something.

And sorry if I tried to hint at it subtly as possible, but I don't think it was so important that I would PM you about it. I mean, come on.

Honey, if you don't want people pointing fingers at you, then don't do stupid things. If you can't help doing stupid things once in a while, like we all can't, then put up with it. It's not my fault that it's the kind of world we live in that when you do something, we all go Oooooh! like immature fourth graders. So stop attacking me about it cause it's not my flipping fault.

Dude, stop making yourself the center of attention. My signature has absolutely nothing to effing do with you. Stop putting yourself in a higher position to make me feel dumb, because it isn't working, alright? And you might say, "Oh that wasn't my intention at all!" but I don't care. We do things subconsciously, whether we want to or not.

And stop dragging Rachel into this. She has nothing to do with this, and I don't want to fight with her any more than I have to. Sorry Rachel, but I hate it when people "pick sides." It's a fight between one person and another, but, as with most things, I can't tell you not to voice an opinion or a comment. I'm just asking you not to post just to post, because you seem to do that from time to time. If there's a hidden meaning behind what you say, I'm probably not going to get it, because as most people know, I'm a very obstinate person.



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[sunnstar]

I know, but I don't want to.

Which is why I BUTTED OUT. But as long as I'm posting, you guys really should take this to PM or IM. You're wasting space in the Update section (I know I've done this too so you don't have to point that out, but it was about fun things and not fights) and getting mad at ME for voicing MY opinion. I'm allowed to do that, you know.

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And btw, Krista spells things wrong on purpose. Like by saying "intranetz" or "yestraday" it makes it funnier. I honestly don't think she was trying to do anything wrong, or was.

I understand she spells things wrong, but it's the fact that she even said it that offended me. Spelling the person who saved my soul's name wrong is even more offensive, actually. And then trying to get around it by saying oh! He's Alfred the Milkman's cousin! or whatever is just crossing the line.






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I know, but I don't want to.

Which is why I BUTTED OUT. But as long as I'm posting, you guys really should take this to PM or IM. You're wasting space in the Update section (I know I've done this too so you don't have to point that out, but it was about fun things and not fights) and getting mad at ME for voicing MY opinion. I'm allowed to do that, you know.

Honey, I'm not mad at you! You're allowed to voice a comment/opinion. I was just saying not to post if you don't have anything to contribute.

It turns out you did, and I was wrong. I admit that, and I'm willing to apologize.

I'm just effing tired of repeating myself seven times.





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Honey, I'm not mad at you! You're allowed to voice a comment/opinion. I was just saying not to post if you don't have anything to contribute.

It turns out you did, and I was wrong. I admit that, and I'm willing to apologize.

I'm just effing tired of repeating myself seven times.





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Oh, okay, thanks! :) Apalogy accepted. I apalogize too, for anything I said.

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It's alright. You didn't, but thank you for apologizing anyway.






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You're welcome.
And going back to the fundraising thing, I was just wondering what Mara meant by that. Like, how do you fundraise online?

[.:!Gwen!:.]

That's a good question.

Well, I guess we offer to do things for people in exchange for art...?







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But like what? Writing or something?

[.:!Gwen!:.]

Er, I guess.

Or maybe join their club? Or draw something else for them, or join their RP, or proofread, edit something of theirs...etc. Idk.






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[sunnstar]

Ooh, that might make some sense. Oh well, I guess I'll wait for Mara to explain it.

[.:!Gwen!:.]

Yes, yes. --waits patiently for Mara--






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Well, Krista, I'm glad you feel compelled to point out things I do wrong just because I asked you not to do something.

And I'm glad you feel compelled to twist the words out of my mouth.

Honey, if you don't want people pointing fingers at you, then don't do stupid things. If you can't help doing stupid things once in a while, like we all can't, then put up with it. It's not my fault that it's the kind of world we live in that when you do something, we all go Oooooh! like immature fourth graders. So stop attacking me about it cause it's not my flipping fault.

I did nothing stupid, you just took something as harmless as what I was avoiding to do and placed it on a pedestal. I tried to scoot by with making a joke so you wouldn't get mad but it seemed to tick you off more.

Dude, stop making yourself the center of attention. My signature has absolutely nothing to effing do with you. Stop putting yourself in a higher position to make me feel dumb, because it isn't working, alright? And you might say, "Oh that wasn't my intention at all!" but I don't care. We do things subconsciously, whether we want to or not.

ME? The center of attention? You have got to be flipping kidding me. You made two gigantic topics about how you were leaving, and then got another account on IDOJ and spied on the members of YL JUST to suck in all the "Omg Gwen we're so sorry"s and to watch people sob about how they missed you so much. That has got to be the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard you say. And no, I did that on purpose. You know why? You do it to people all the time. I'm not that much of a coward to try to play it off.

I did not try to make Rachel pick sides. You are falsely assuming things, Gwen. I was STANDING UP FOR HER, believe it or not, because that's what friends do. You made a direct stab at her out of anger, and it makes you look, not annoying, but just a mean person in general.

And then trying to get around it by saying oh! He's Alfred the Milkman's cousin! or whatever is just crossing the line.

Well, I honestly didn't know you'd kill me over it. I was trying to resolve things humorously before they got any worse and then you assume that I'm trying to slide out of what I said, and I'm the one to blame just because I made a stupid exclamation out of my sheer stupidity. You know? Because I'm just stupid that way, and I do stupid things, which make people go Oooooh! like fourth graders. Yes, I am sincerely just that dumb.

I never knew you could be that mean to anyone, including me, Gwen. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm SORRY if I offended you. But I'm not going to be the only one to say sorry because it wasn't "all my fault." I know that's not what you said but that's what you're treating me like.

I'm fed up.

However, I'm not leaving IDOJ. I'm not leaving because of one fight of you. Leaving doesn't ever resolve things and it only makes them worse. Instead I'm going to ignore you until the we all just cool off. I don't know if I'll ever be friends with you again, and after a fight as insignificant as that, but I don't want to talk to you after just now.

Sorry, but I don't want to spend the holidays arguing with you.

[CraazyOne]

You're right, Krista, the more you and Gwen post right now the more upset with each other you're going to get. And I don't mean to intrude, but reading your fight here under the Updates is really depressing for everyone. I hate to see people fighting...

Uuuum, can we please change the subject and talk about something like the fundraiser...?

*gulp* Sunny and I aren't trying to be annoying or intrusive; we're just concerned, so please don't kill me...

~Rach~

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*gulp* Sunny and I aren't trying to be annoying or intrusive; we're just concerned, so please don't kill me...

Yesyes. Rach and I are NOT trying to intrude. We're just concerned about our friends and merely voicing our opinions.

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Wow, Krista. Just wow.

I did nothing stupid, you just took something as harmless as what I was avoiding to do and placed it on a pedestal. I tried to scoot by with making a joke so you wouldn't get mad but it seemed to tick you off more.

Well, maybe it's because you never think before you do stupid things! I'm sorry, but sometimes, the way you handle things and the way you address things make me go, wow. I cannot wait to see what happens next.

ME? The center of attention? You have got to be flipping kidding me. You made two gigantic topics about how you were leaving, and then got another account on IDOJ and spied on the members of YL JUST to suck in all the "Omg Gwen we're so sorry"s and to watch people sob about how they missed you so much. That has got to be the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard you say. And no, I did that on purpose. You know why? You do it to people all the time. I'm not that much of a coward to try to play it off.

Like this is even worth arguing about. Your tactics at making me feel stupid and saying "Whoopsie" to myself are obviously not working, because I do not feel stupid, and I am definitely not telling myself I did something wrong.

I made those topics because people effing hurt me, Krista. Well, I made the second one because of it. And you know what? Maybe I like to tell people what happened to me because they're my friends and they deserve to know!

Ladies and gentlemen, I admit I was wrong. (Krista's probably dying in a fit of shock right now. --rollseyes--) Spying on you for my own beneficial purposes is not very nice of me, and I'm sorry. Unlike Krista, who creates guest accounts with Hugh for fun and giggles so they can laugh at people getting mad at them. That's really immature, and I should've told you not to. I apologize for that too.

I never said you were a coward, Krista. You're one of the bravest people I know. Whether that's a good thing or not is questionable, however. And yes, I'm a very big coward. Thank you for telling me something I already knew. And you know what? If you were trying to hurt me, that did it.

I did not try to make Rachel pick sides. You are falsely assuming things, Gwen. I was STANDING UP FOR HER, believe it or not, because that's what friends do. You made a direct stab at her out of anger, and it makes you look, not annoying, but just a mean person in general.

I am not falsely assuming things, dumbass. Those things I said were directed at Rachel, not you. Why don't you stop assuming things.

Well, I honestly didn't know you'd kill me over it. I was trying to resolve things humorously before they got any worse and then you assume that I'm trying to slide out of what I said, and I'm the one to blame just because I made a stupid exclamation out of my sheer stupidity. You know? Because I'm just stupid that way, and I do stupid things, which make people go Oooooh! like fourth graders. Yes, I am sincerely just that dumb.

You know what? I was trying to pass this off as a mistake/you-didn't-know-any-better kind of thing. I guess I was doing the right thing, but you're too stubborn to even appreciate it. And I suppose I shouldn't be calling you stubborn, since I'll be all hypocratic again, but there it is.

I'm glad you see it my way. :rolleyes: -_-

I never knew you could be that mean to anyone, including me, Gwen. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm SORRY if I offended you. But I'm not going to be the only one to say sorry because it wasn't "all my fault." I know that's not what you said but that's what you're treating me like.

Krista, honey, I'm just glad I get to be mean once in a while. I was hoping it wasn't going to be at you, but what're you gonna do? Apology accepted! I thought we covered that I did accept your apology and I was willing to forget it and move on. But, obviously, you weren't, and all you care about is getting your way. I mean, I'm the exact same way, but you obviously don't want to be like me, now do you?

However, I'm not leaving IDOJ. I'm not leaving because of one fight of you. Leaving doesn't ever resolve things and it only makes them worse. Instead I'm going to ignore you until the we all just cool off. I don't know if I'll ever be friends with you again, and after a fight as insignificant as that, but I don't want to talk to you after just now.

Sorry, but I don't want to spend the holidays arguing with you.

Duh. That would be absolutely retarded to leave cause of one effing fight. Thank you for pointing out the obvious, sir or madam. Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all time. Thank you and have a great day!

Insignifigant? Insig-f*cking-nifigant? That is IT. Way to be, darling. I didn't think you could offend me more but there it is. My religion is the most important thing to me, and you think you can just stomp all over my opinions and brush your offensive actions away like they were nothing. Sorry to be an Emo Jimmy Clone, but come on. What are you, Catholic? Well, good deeds wouldn't get you into heaven anyway, but I would make you go to like, seven confessions after that. The only person who could hurt me more than you is Star, Krista. And way to be, you have achieved that goal. Check number one for New Year's Resolutions, and it isn't even the first yet. I applaud you.

Spend the holidays arguing with me? You should've thought of that before you "defended yourself."

U is laer as vullis, vuil vark. Dankie vir einde 'n andersins groot vriendskap. Dankiedankiedankie.



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You're right, Krista, the more you and Gwen post right now the more upset with each other you're going to get. And I don't mean to intrude, but reading your fight here under the Updates is really depressing for everyone. I hate to see people fighting...

Uuuum, can we please change the subject and talk about something like the fundraiser...?

*gulp* Sunny and I aren't trying to be annoying or intrusive; we're just concerned, so please don't kill me...

Yesyes. Rach and I are NOT trying to intrude. We're just concerned about our friends and merely voicing our opinions.

Aww, it's all cool, I know where you guys are coming from. I don't particularly enjoy fighting, either, but when I get steamed... well. :lol:" *Shot*

And the fundraiser? Well, when I suggested the idea I meant we should maybe set a goal on how many new pieces of artwork or literature we want to get. Like maybe... 10 pieces of art, or 5 oneshots, or whatever! Maybe even more if we're REALLY committed. (: LOL.

How much do you think we can do??

EDIT: Wow Gwen. Way to ruin the mood. Just to clear things up: I'm not a dumbass and I don't deserve to be ridiculed by you. And I'm glad to say I never want to speak to you again. It's not even a possibility.

And so what? Okay, ban me for having fun. Yes, I admit it: we made the guest accounts. I know I get immature sometimes, but you do, too. You were even laughing at the guest accounts so I guess that obviously doesn't make you an A+ student for targeting that against me.

I hurt you, Gwen? Maybe other people have feelings, too, besides yourself. You hurt me more than you'll ever know. I'm not going to fight with you anymore because it makes us look even more like jackasses than usual. I was trying to change the subject and lessen the blow, so maybe we could cool off, but you had to go and be, well, you. Thanks for treating me like a five year old and telling me I'm going to heck. Such a Christian you are. You're really something.

Oh, and yes, I was baptized Catholic.

You know what? Even after beating me so freaking hard I'm amazed I can even reply to this. You really know how to make people cry, Gwen.

Congratulations. You got your wish and you beat me at a fight. But what's this going to prove in the end?

Just don't reply after this. Don't say anything to me. I really don't want to talk to you.

[CraazyOne]

Thanks, Krista. :D

Hmm...dunno how much we could do. It depends on how creative everyone's feeling. :lol: I don't have anything to donate, since I don't do MVs and can't draw to save my life. But if there's any way I can help, I'd like to. I have no clue what a reasonable goal would be.

And...exactly how long were you thinking of running the fundraiser? OK, Mara gets the final say, but it was your idea and I'm sure you had something in mind.

~Rach~