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Interesting question. I'm mixed about it. While I believe that consquences could be held after suicide, I do not believe that it is wrong to commit suicide. Who are we to hold back someone that wants to leave?

If someone does not wish to be alive anymore, it is their preference. It is not wrong at all to wish to be dead. No one knows quite what will happen to the deceased, so if there ARE punishments, they are unknown to the living.

[ShadRose17]

Interesting question. I'm mixed about it. While I believe that consquences could be held after suicide, I do not believe that it is wrong to commit suicide. Who are we to hold back someone that wants to leave?

If someone does not wish to be alive anymore, it is their preference. It is not wrong at all to wish to be dead. No one knows quite what will happen to the deceased, so if there ARE punishments, they are unknown to the living.

May I ask do you go to church?

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What does that have to do with anything? Just because CHURCH may say suicide is wrong, doesn't mean it is.

And yes. I've been to church. But I rarely go.

[ShadRose17]

What does that have to do with anything? Just because CHURCH may say is wrong, doesn't mean it is.

And yes. I've been to church. But I rarely go.

Just wondered. and it's not because CHURCH says suicide is wrong, it's because God says it But I really do not want to fight about it so can we just be friend's?

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.. o:)

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I'm not mad or anything, I was just trying to prove a point. :)

Now, I DO believe in God, so don't jump to conclusions. I'm just saying that I think it's not wrong for a person to commit suicide if they feel the need to (or if they are seriously in a state of weakness).

I, for one, would never commit suicide (I don't want to even risk what could happen in the afterlife), but I love to read/write sad angsty stories. I highly suggest you give it a chance, just by reading some, before you say that it's the most horrible thing in the world. You don't have to, I'm just saying.

Depressing/angst stories just interest me, I guess.

[ShadRose17]

I'm not mad or anything, I was just trying to prove a point. :)

Now, I DO believe in God, so don't jump to conclusions. I'm just saying that I think it's not wrong for a person to commit suicide if they feel the need to (or if they are seriously in a state of weakness).

I, for one, would never commit suicide (I don't want to even risk what could happen in the afterlife), but I love to read/write sad angsty stories. I highly suggest you give it a chance, just by reading some, before you say that it's the most horrible thing in the world. You don't have to, I'm just saying.

Depressing/angst stories just interest me, I guess.

did you know that almost this page we were talking LOL. o:)

[ShadRose17]

I'm not mad or anything, I was just trying to prove a point.  :)

Now, I DO believe in God, so don't jump to conclusions. I'm just saying that I think it's not wrong for a person to commit suicide if they feel the need to (or if they are seriously in a state of weakness).

I, for one, would never commit suicide (I don't want to even risk what could happen in the afterlife), but I love to read/write sad angsty stories. I highly suggest you give it a chance, just by reading some, before you say that it's the most horrible thing in the world. You don't have to, I'm just saying.

Depressing/angst stories just interest me, I guess.

did you know that almost this page we were talking LOL. o:)

oops that when on to a new page LOL

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Yeah, I noticed. I'M SO SORRY, MARA. O_o *Wayofftopic*

[ShadRose17]

Yeah, I noticed. I'M SO SORRY, MARA. O_o *Wayofftopic*

LOL yeah sorry Mara o:)

[Mara=^.^=]

Well, as long as we're on the topic, I guess I'll put in my two cents worth. Ethical and moral debates aside, suicide in fanfics...well, to be honest, really bores me. I think the internal struggle of a character is more compelling when they are also set against a distinct antagonist...in other words, you gotta have a good villain! Whether it's nature, a person, society, or anything else, a good conflict with another character really soups up the plot.

Suicide in fanfics always sort of sounds...the same. Maybe it's because suicidal people tend to have the same sort of thoughts/internal dialogue towards the end of their lives. Obviously, all people who kill themselves have to arrive at some sort of conclusion to do it, and the process that leads to that conclusion basically sounds the same no matter what the circumstances. Hate to say it, but suici-fics just kind of irritate me. The repetition gets old.

Not to say that suicide isn't a legitimate subject to write about. It is. I LOVE bittersweet stories, but to me, suicide isn't really "bittersweet". Suicide doesn't entail the same tragedy, loss, or unfairness as if someone else did something to hurt you, or if someone else killed a person you loved. When control is taken out of your hands it makes you all the more helpless, all the more hurt, and all the more interesting as a character.

So ya. That's about it. Responses are welcome...but please, if we're gonna argue about the ethical aspect of suicide, then start a new topic on the sheer randomness forum. Otherwise, keep it limited to fanfics.

~*Mara*~ = ^.^ =

[JCFOREVER]

Well, that's YOUR opinion. In many eyes, suicide is not wrong. At all. Just like some people believe that there is no God. Just because YOU say suicide is wrong, doesn't mean that you are right.

I take it that you're a relativist?

Well, keeping Mara's wishes in mind, I don't care for suicide fics much myself. I like sad, but it still has to have a sort of happy twist to it. I like stories that make me cry, but still feel fulfilling in a way. Not ones that make me sad and just leave me in a state of hopelessness and depression. Does this make even a little sense to anyone at all? I don't feel that I'm doing a very good job at explaining myself. :lol:

[ShadRose17]

I take it that you're a relativist?

Well, keeping Mara's wishes in mind, I don't care for suicide fics much myself. I like sad, but it still has to have a sort of happy twist to it. I like stories that make me cry, but still feel fulfilling in a way. Not ones that make me sad and just leave me in a state of hopelessness and depression. Does this make even a little sense to anyone at all? I don't feel that I'm doing a very good job at explaining myself. :lol:

Yeah I know what your talking about, hey I read A really good fanfic like that do you want me to send it to you? o:) (oops sorry Mara whey off topic again, sorry)

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Um, sure, I guess. Just PM the link to me.

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Heh, I take it no one here has read my fanfiction that I wrote awhile back? It's actually titled "Bittersweet." The first part is awfully bad (I mean, written horribly!), but I kind of like the second one. =]

The epilogue (which DOES HAVE A HAPPY ENDING, by the way!!), just kind of filters out all of the horrible things that happened.

JCFOREVER: I really haven't put much thought into it (quite sad). But I appear to support relativism, hmm? Heh. Ah well. The only thing I try to do (highlight the word "try," please, ha) is to understand everyone and attempt to view where everyone is coming from (...which is literally almost impossible), and sometimes I sound like a hypocrite...ACTUALLY, I MIGHT BE ONE. :P

Oh snap, wait...

[Lily Knotwise]

I loved this fic Mara! >.<
Very well said.

[snowleo121]

well, i have officially turned against ff.net JN fics....i DO NOT enjoy reading cuss words in a TV-Y7 show-based fic, and i DO NOT enjoy some of the content that they contain....(sticks tongue out in disgust)BLECH!!!!!!!!!

snowy

[~~Megan~~]

I agree with you on the aspect that FF.net JN section has way to many bad fics. That's why I carefully search the section until I find one to my liking. Oh, and I'm about to start writing a fic where the characters are slightly out of character, but that's because they're older and they're interacting with a completely new character. (who happens to be me) Please relay to Cindy my apologies in advance, and tell her that if the plotlines of fanfics eventually happen to the group, then she's up for a pretty cool adventure.

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LOL. I'll be sure to give her the message. x]

And yeah, my fanfic. is AU, so it's bound to be kind of OOC. But I'll try to keep it IC as much as possible. :lol:"
*Difficulty level: 10,000,000 *

[~~Megan~~]

Yeah, my first chapter is up and it seems no one is reading it except JimmyandCindyforever. It is going to be an extremely good story, and I've been wondering why no one is reading it. Seriously! If I'm going to be a bestselling author, I need to test my not-original work on people before my original work gets published. :grr: I hope Cindy and Libby approve...

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Give me the link and I'll read! ^_^ And I know what you mean... it sucks when no one even bothers to read/review your work. =[